tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post940923070353019318..comments2024-03-07T16:18:06.946-06:00Comments on Average Joe's Handgun Reviews: The Basic Three Gun BatteryAverage Joe's Handgun Reviewshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03173747731064233358noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-38153886004523821552012-08-11T11:37:12.573-05:002012-08-11T11:37:12.573-05:00In a .22 revolver what seems to be the better. A ...In a .22 revolver what seems to be the better. A Taurus 990 or 991 or the new Ruger SP 102. There was an article in a recent American Rifleman about the Taurus 991 having two cylinders, one for .22 Mag and .22 lr. Seems like a recent review in Guns and Ammo gave a less than stellar read out on the double action trigger pull on the Ruger SP 102 rimfire.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-58867977904654745512012-08-05T20:38:49.583-05:002012-08-05T20:38:49.583-05:00Anonymous,
I have never had a feeding problem wit...Anonymous,<br /><br />I have never had a feeding problem with the two pistol caliber lever action carbines I have own (one in .357 Mag. and one if .44 mag) but I respect your opinion as my sample of experience is relegated to those two carbines mentioned. However in regards to your assertion that most cops would prefer their old revolver to a Glock I just tend to doubt it. My guess is that most cops who joined the force in the last 15 to 20 years have never laid their hand on a revolver. Especially those in the larger cities where the pool of recruits comes to the academy with no shooting experience whatsoever (which is a sad state of affairs in my book).Average Joe's Handgun Reviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03173747731064233358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-70874299881149582802012-08-05T18:22:03.411-05:002012-08-05T18:22:03.411-05:00Good article; A couple comments. You need to talk ...Good article; A couple comments. You need to talk to more Marlin/Rossi/Puma lever action PISTOL caliber owners. They are NOT reliable feeders. Period. Google Marlin Jam 1894. So....although they are maligned by some, a hi-point carbine in 9MM or .40 S&W to match your Glock would be a more reliable choice, in my opinion. The .30/30 lever actions ARE highly reliable, and make sense to me, as most folks in deer country will have a box or 2 in the house, and they will be in every store that has ammo. Please go ASK all of those cops carrying Glocks what is the ONE pistol they would take in a SHTF situ ..... I bet well more than half say they will take the old revolver that has been gathering dust in the bureau, drawer .....NOT the Glock. I'll put money on that one. Keep up the good work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-54885319920009958632012-07-16T02:42:45.330-05:002012-07-16T02:42:45.330-05:00I like the CZ75 and it's clones in 9mm - it se...I like the CZ75 and it's clones in 9mm - it seems to have a particularly friendly grip which fits all sizes of hands and is well suited to people with small hands especially. Sasy to shoot, relatively cheap and reliable as anything you are likely to find.<br /><br />Pump action shotguns. I can see the "tar and feather" brigade limbering up but I'd recommend a semi auto. Here's why. I used to teach martial arts and one of the things I stressed that in practice, you exaggerate the movements because under stress, the movement will become normal. Itf the movement is "normal" then it will fade away to a gesture.<br /><br />Transferring this to shotguns, the kind of people that this article is aimed at are unlikely to practice and are liable, under stress, to short stroke the pump action which could be somewhere between embarrassing and fatal.<br /><br />I've put my money where my mouth is and own a Mossberg 930 with an 18" barrel. Reliable, easy to shoot, and cheap for what you are getting.<br /><br />I agree with a .357 mag rifle but unless/until Marlin sorts its quality issues out, it will be a Rossi. Used to own a .357 Mag marlin and loved it. With target loads in .38 spl (which I can reload cheaper than buying .22LR) it is devastating on small game like rabbits and it WILL do from a rifle what people think it will do from a revolver. Ideal for small deer and goats. And goblins.<br /><br />Phil BAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-35487616039511962052012-07-08T23:23:30.614-05:002012-07-08T23:23:30.614-05:00"As for popularity many more people own large..."As for popularity many more people own large bore magnum pistols or revolvers than can shoot them well."--Very well put. In fact it seems that handguns that require the most practice seem to get the least whether they be large bore magnums, or lightweight, snub-nosed, .38 specials. <br /><br />As always the individual shooter needs to try as many different options as they can and invest in the largest caliber they can shoot well weather that be a handgun, rifle, or shotgun. Even if they are purchasing a .22 caliber firearm some will fit them better than other.Average Joe's Handgun Reviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03173747731064233358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-73713291725304961572012-07-08T16:57:23.173-05:002012-07-08T16:57:23.173-05:00Average Joe,
"The 10mm is no more difficult ...Average Joe,<br /><br /><i>"The 10mm is no more difficult to shoot from a handgun than are 41 and 44 magnums and larger calibers which were very prominent with people when I lived in Idaho."</i><br /><br />Understood and agreed. In fact the 10mm has some advantages over the revolvers if defense against persons is more likely than defense against animals. The problem with the Glock in 10mm is that it's too big for shooters with medium or small hands. As for popularity many more people own large bore magnum pistols or revolvers than can shoot them well.<br /><br />I've given more thought to recommending lever action rifles instead of other action types. In its many ways the levergun is the revolver of the rifle world, essentially obsolete since the dawn of the 20th century and offering few if any advantages over designs that replaced it. <br /><br />Of course that doesn't keep pople from doing good work with them. I've owned several lever actions and still hunt with "Mjolnir," my 1895 Marlin 45/70 Guide Gun, but they are nowhere near as easy to strip for cleaning as the average bolt action, let alone a military-pattern selfloader. The manual of arms may be intuitive to anyone who's seen a cowboy movie, but it calls for fine motor control under stress (to operate the hammer and to reload), which is not a recipe for success unless one's training is extensive and practice routine. <br /><br />An entry-level package boltgun (Savage, Mossberg, Marlin) will eventually be compromised by the cheap variable that comes mounted on it, but they cost less than any but the 336, are simpler to use, and are easier to get hits with than any leveraction. If full-power ammo is too much of a good thing Remington's Managed Recoil ammunition is a blessing to both new shooters and the recoil-shy. $0.02<br /><br />Again, keep up the fine work, Average Joe.<br /><br />PS, I offer a variety of opinions on hunting and shooting at http://eclecticbreakfast.blogspot.com/ Put the word "hunting" in the search box to be directed to most of my posts on such subjects. Be well.Eclectic Breakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09767654149969639962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-60390681199675613792012-07-07T23:20:39.784-05:002012-07-07T23:20:39.784-05:00Eclectic Breakfast,
Thanks for sharing you opini...Eclectic Breakfast, <br /><br />Thanks for sharing you opinions they are all valid and well taken. Regarding pistol caliber, I did not increase the power of the pistol caliber until I got to the rural and mountain environments as I felt that people in those locales are more familiar with shooting, and shooting larger calibers out of need. The 10mm is no more difficult to shoot from a handgun than are .41 and 44 magnums and larger calibers which were very prominent with people when I lived in Idaho. Similarly, when I lived in Chicago and Los Angeles I never saw a 45-70 cartridge in any sporting goods store or gun shop. But, when I moved to Idaho, 45-70 ammo by several different manufacturers in different weights and bullet configurations were available every where ammunition was sold. <br /><br />As for pistol grips on a shotgun, the only one I included was the .410 in the apartment/condo environment. As for your comment about testing shotguns with grips...I have. I do not recommend firearms unless I have some experience with them. In the late 1980's I put a pistol grip on my Mossberg 500 12 gauge and fired it exactly once because it was not a good experience. The shoulder stock went right back on. I currently have a Mossberg .410 Cruiser and find it just fine to use an indoor shotgun. <br /><br />Your recommendation on the 20 gauge youth model is certainly valid. I have a friend in Idaho who bought a youth model because it fit both him and his wife much better than adult models. He also selected the 20 gauge as he had arthritis in his shoulders and the 20 gauge with a heavier recoil pad and a very good shoulder pad in a shooter's vest allowed him to practice without getting too banged up. <br /><br />Thanks for writing and providing your input and options.Average Joe's Handgun Reviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03173747731064233358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-81243688214642934092012-07-07T09:37:30.101-05:002012-07-07T09:37:30.101-05:00Thanks for another well-written post. I do have a...Thanks for another well-written post. I do have a few comments...<br /><br />With regard to pistol choices, while the needs of a defender may change depending on locale, the ability of persons to operate the pistol may not, especially for those with no training or little opportunity to practice. According to your criteria a 9mm Glock is a fine choice because of its simplicity, reliability, and affordability. A 40 may offer an incremental increase in effectiveness but at the cost of greater recoil. The 10mm Glock is too large for many shooters to operate effectively, the ammunition is scarce, and the recoil with full power loads more than many can handle.<br /><br />While a 410 shotgun may be sufficient to dispatch pests in the garden (in locations where you're allows to shoot firearms in your back yard) I'd recommend a Remington Synthetic Youth Model 870 in 20 gauge if fighting is a consideration. The smaller receiver and shorter stock allow the small-statured to operate it with comfort but it is still permits adult men to use it. There are Bantam versions of the Mossberg 500 as well but our household is most familiar with Remingtons. While not as potent as a 12 bore, there are Brenneke 1 oz slugs made for the 20 gauge that will close the gap between the two. I do, however, strongly disagree with the idea of a pistol grip only shotgun; the quality of your hits and the speed with which you make them always suffers. If you doubt it test yourself and other shooters in your household with a PACT shot timer.<br /><br />When it comes to rugged, reliable, easy to use rifles you skip one very important military-style rifle. The AK-47 was designed for precisely the sort of user you are describing, is sized for small to average statured shooters, and costs half what a pistol cartridge or 45/70 lever action does. You might find 30/30 leverguns for about the same price but given an equal amount of instruction an AK clone is easier to use than a hammer gun with a tubular magazine.<br /><br />If you buy the Glock as a used police trade-in you can buy all these guns for under $400 (the shotgun for under $300) each, leaving enough savings to purchase a weapon-mounted light for each.Eclectic Breakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09767654149969639962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-76680359496395937182012-07-03T09:22:00.071-05:002012-07-03T09:22:00.071-05:00Great comments!
Come hear AJ and I talk about this...Great comments!<br />Come hear AJ and I talk about this LIVE tonight at 9pm EDT on The Gun Nation.... <br />We will be taking calls.. so call with your choices and opinions!<br />http://live.gunnation.usDoc Wessonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08501480969671863210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-90464195803080832862012-06-27T11:27:22.357-05:002012-06-27T11:27:22.357-05:00Cannot say as I disagree with any of your inclusio...Cannot say as I disagree with any of your inclusions, nor the reasons for them. I am a big fan of lever action rifles, and Mossberg shotguns. And I have and shoot many pistols and revolvers both, the Glock is a fine choice even though I am personally not a fan of them, they just do not fit well in my hand. <br /><br />That said I will say that there are several instances where I feel that a revolver is the better option. They are where the encounter might be at extreme close range, where grappling can be part of the protection process. I would include these in a bedside gun, and a woods walking handgun where in both instances trouble might literally be upon you before you can shoot. <br /><br />In those instances a revolver is more likely to be able to shoot multiple times where the slide may be interfered with on a pistol, causing a jam. <br /><br />Yes it can happen in any situation, but when one wakes up to a burglar, or a stealthy cat pounces from bad breath range the revolver just MIGHT have a slight edge for you.S.L. Dickinsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-18037665452598078472012-06-24T23:12:09.155-05:002012-06-24T23:12:09.155-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Theresahttp://bestcross-bow.com/barnett-quad-400/barnett-quad-400-salenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-1109441976997063342012-06-21T16:04:47.094-05:002012-06-21T16:04:47.094-05:00I really enjoy your thoughtful comments. I too lo...I really enjoy your thoughtful comments. I too love the 10/22 and have used them mulitple times as a first gun for non shooters at the range. Now that my boys are getting bigger I might have to get the one that breaks apart. I enjoy listening to you on Gun Nation and you are the only reason I listen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-22415308475846659942012-06-21T11:47:06.064-05:002012-06-21T11:47:06.064-05:00You're discussion of the Glock in 10mm reminde...You're discussion of the Glock in 10mm reminded me of one of my dream guns. A mid size Glock in 10mm. One about the size of the Glock 19/23/32. Glock makes a baby 10mm but no mid size to my knowledge. I think Glock has the 10mm market about sewed up but maybe its a dying caliber and not enough profit in it. <br /><br />Glock once touted their Glocks in .357 Sig as the answer to the .357 Remington mag., maybe they still do but most of the ammo in .357 Sig is not much better than the 9mm round which has had significant performance enhancements. PPU has a round in .357 Sig claiming muzzle energy of 660 ft. lbs but most ammo is in the 500 ft lb range. The 10mm would come closer to the answer to the .357 Rem. mag in an auto. <br /><br />Matt L. DeTectreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-10663494665183069312012-06-17T19:58:35.811-05:002012-06-17T19:58:35.811-05:00Great article and analysis.
Don't know if th...Great article and analysis. <br /><br />Don't know if this is a true story or not. Believe I read it in a gun rag several yrs ago. The story goes that the homeowner heard a disturbance outside and saw thieves breaking into his tool shed. He called police and waited as the thieves continued their pillaging of his shed. He called back and reported that he thinks he shot one of the thieves. Police reponse time after that report was less than a minute. Apparently he did not shoot anyone but wanted the police to hurry up. <br /><br />I guess the moral of the story is that reported gunfire shortens the response time considerably. Obviously I would not recommend this process as the police may actually be involved in something more serious than a shed break-in as you pointed out but of course if you do have to fire your weapon most definitely report that when you call as legitimate use will speed up assistance (so will illegitimate use). <br /><br />But a confrontation over loss of tools from an out building may not be worth it even if you have the right to defend your property. At 2 am outside in the dark you have no idea what you are up against.<br /><br />Another homeowner was ask if he kept a firearm in his house. <br />"Sure do," he replied. <br />"Well, I certainly hope it isn't loaded." <br />"Yep, it is." <br />"Are you afraid of someone?"<br />"No, and I ain't afraid of my house burnin' down but I keep a loaded fire extinguisher, also."<br /><br />Matt L. DeTectreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-13543892674330314142012-06-16T22:06:19.638-05:002012-06-16T22:06:19.638-05:00As always, great article! Really enjoy your views...As always, great article! Really enjoy your views, reasons, justifications, and recommendations. It's great as I always seem to find your reviews and recommendations fit my needs and lifestyle!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31185777.post-29276716857862838642012-06-16T03:58:10.933-05:002012-06-16T03:58:10.933-05:00A .45 ACP S&W with two 10+1 mags, 12ga. Rem. 8...A .45 ACP S&W with two 10+1 mags, 12ga. Rem. 8 shot pump and Marlin 336CS in 30-30the Carbine does well for both in and outside. A handy Rem. 597 VTR takes care of everything . (sorry-keyboard trouble )... You have it 100%out and I've bee n living it here and Nebraska for well over 50the years. THANKS JOE, 10 of 10the on your intro to the newly acquainted.<br />Padre Mike".that a River 10-22 does including. 22 LR "Bird shot" for the diamondbacks and ground squirrel population that can break a horses leg with their relentless tunneling. The coons VS chickens, opossum, fox and coyote are just as bad. Occasionally the mtn. lions come to eye the goats and the 336336historMinister "Padre Casey" Lama Rinpoche, Theoretical MetaphysicsPhDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03455837340750389771noreply@blogger.com